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| octopus man |
 Nov 11 2010, 05:02 AM
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From: warrenton va
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QUOTE(Guerrilla @ Nov 11 2010, 04:28 AM) 
It gets to be around a foot and it initially eats live food
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| octopus man |
Nov 11 2010, 06:33 PM
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QUOTE(Jesse @ Nov 11 2010, 04:33 PM) The "needlenose gar" ( Xenentodon cancila) is not actually a true gar, but a needlefish. It occurs in FW, brackish, and SW in nature. Max size in nature is 16 inches, but 12 inches is more common. See the fishbase info for more details: http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/speciesSum...mp;lang=EnglishThanks,but would a needle nose gar go best in fresh,brackish,or salt,or does it even matter? |
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| Jesse |
Nov 11 2010, 07:10 PM
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The PUNisher
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QUOTE(octopus man @ Nov 11 2010, 03:33 PM) QUOTE(Jesse @ Nov 11 2010, 04:33 PM) The "needlenose gar" ( Xenentodon cancila) is not actually a true gar, but a needlefish. It occurs in FW, brackish, and SW in nature. Max size in nature is 16 inches, but 12 inches is more common. See the fishbase info for more details: http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/speciesSum...mp;lang=EnglishThanks,but would a needle nose gar go best in fresh,brackish,or salt,or does it even matter? Not sure. Like most BW species, they are probably born in FW or light BW and gravitate towards higher salinity as they age and breed in BW or SW. I see them sold in FW all the time though. I've never kept them due to the difficulty in weaning them off of feeders. |
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| octopus man |
Nov 12 2010, 05:39 AM
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From: warrenton va
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QUOTE(Jesse @ Nov 11 2010, 07:10 PM) QUOTE(octopus man @ Nov 11 2010, 03:33 PM) QUOTE(Jesse @ Nov 11 2010, 04:33 PM) The "needlenose gar" ( Xenentodon cancila) is not actually a true gar, but a needlefish. It occurs in FW, brackish, and SW in nature. Max size in nature is 16 inches, but 12 inches is more common. See the fishbase info for more details: http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/speciesSum...mp;lang=EnglishThanks,but would a needle nose gar go best in fresh,brackish,or salt,or does it even matter? Not sure. Like most BW species, they are probably born in FW or light BW and gravitate towards higher salinity as they age and breed in BW or SW. I see them sold in FW all the time though. I've never kept them due to the difficulty in weaning them off of feeders. Since they like live food would feeder goldfish or other feeders be ok,becaues I read that goldfish are high in fat?thanks. |
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| luvinbluegills |
Nov 12 2010, 10:38 AM
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Goldfish naturally contain an enzyme called Thiaminase which destroys Thiamine, a form of B-1 vitamin. Providing a diet consisting of a high proportion of goldfish will lead to problems from this as well as putting your gar at risk of parasites. (Here's an article on Thiaminase - http://www.wetwebmedia.com/ca/volume_6/vol...thiaminase.htm)To give your fish live feeders you'd be better off raising your own livebearers, Convict Cichlids or other fast breeding fish, but the amount of work required to raise enough fish to feed a predator that requires them a complete diet is going to be pretty substantial.
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| octopus man |
Nov 13 2010, 07:41 AM
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From: warrenton va
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QUOTE(luvinbluegills @ Nov 12 2010, 10:38 AM) Goldfish naturally contain an enzyme called Thiaminase which destroys Thiamine, a form of B-1 vitamin. Providing a diet consisting of a high proportion of goldfish will lead to problems from this as well as putting your gar at risk of parasites. (Here's an article on Thiaminase - http://www.wetwebmedia.com/ca/volume_6/vol...thiaminase.htm)To give your fish live feeders you'd be better off raising your own livebearers, Convict Cichlids or other fast breeding fish, but the amount of work required to raise enough fish to feed a predator that requires them a complete diet is going to be pretty substantial. Thanks. |
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| Jcrfreeride |
Jul 20 2012, 10:00 PM
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I've had a needle nose for years and feed him a few fatheads a week with the occasional gold fish, he's always done fine. I keep a power head in the tank, they seem to play around in it.
Wolf fish, payara, snowflake eel, silver arrowana, needle nose gar, African cichlids, spiny softshell water turtle and my big ol retarded albino Oscar!
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Anyway Iwould like to know more about needle nose gar.thanks 
